RE: [Philmont]: Pre-Trek Training Agreements

How can I get a sample of the contract?

Uncle Cletus
Philmont 1998, 1999, 2006

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From: owner-philmont@troop47.com [mailto:owner-philmont@troop47.com] On
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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [Philmont]: Pre-Trek Training Agreements

Well, I am one who is willing to admit that it's gratifying - even if not
particularly justified - to see the respect in peoples' eyes when they ask
what trek we're on (no, we don't volunteer this info as a means of beating
our hairy chests, but we will answer if asked). I do strongly caution my
Crews not to play the trek number game, and I usually inwardly smile (and
think of Wally) every time we get the "trek challenge" from another Crew.

Again, the misconception is Philmont-induced with the (IMO) inappropriate T
- R - S - SS designators. As y'all know, this was one of the reasons why I
developed the Challenge Index in the first place, so that people would
understand that the trek difficulty designator was only one parameter (among
many) in understanding the "true" challenge of a Philmont trek. Failure to
understand this is how people who ended up having a mediocre to miserable
experience set themselves up for it in the first place. Anyone who equates
"Typical" to "Easy" is in for a rude awakening, and very likely an
unpleasant experience.

In my last posting, I stated that my Commitment Contract would be identical
whether we were on Trek 1 or Trek 35. I forgot to mention that of course
this was so, because the contracts are distributed, signed, and returned
about 6 - 8 months before we ever select our trek (Commitment Contract in
early fall, trek selection the following March).
  Furthermore, our preparative schedule (meetings, hikes, shakedowns) would
also be identical, regardless of what trek we ended up taking.
Certainly my personal level of preparation wouldn't change an iota.
This consistency of approach, I suppose, is the most important point.

- Dr. Bob

Feurtado, Walter C. wrote:
> In 1994, there was this lady who had the most feminine voice that I
> had ever heard. While there were ladies hiking the trails, there were
> not were near the number that hike the trails today. After the trek I
> asked her if anybody asked what trek she was on. She began to laugh
> because when she said 32 the macho men just backed away!! In 1996,
> there was a lady who was planning on going on trek number 7 (now 22)
> and I strongly suggested that she go on trek 22 because the only
> difference was that 22 went up to Sawmill and the other went to
> Cypher's Mine. She finally changed and after the trek I asked her the
same question and she too had
> the same reaction. It's all a matter of perception!!!
>
>
>
> Many Philmont hikers do equate trek difficulty with trek number.
> There tends to be this thought that low number treks are "EASIER" but
> it would be more accurate to say that they were "LESS DIFFICULT".
> There is nothing easy about a Philmont trek.
>
>
>
> I forget the year that Philmont added a new trek, trek 27. Trek 27
> was the highest number trek and was rated as super strenuous. When
> our contingent arrived, there was this advisor who was on the
> advisor's porch asking new crew advisors what trek they were on. Then
> he proceeded to tell them the virtues of his trek 27. I was amused
> because that trek did not do Baldy or Mt Phillips but as long as the
> trek provided him some sense of accomplishment, well I guess that is good.
>
>
>
> I particularly love the South and Central parts of Philmont. There
> are other people who love the Northern portion because of Baldy.
> There is something for everybody at Philmont, but trek 4 still has a
> special place in my heart!!!
>
>
> Wally
>

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