[Philmont] 30 & Burros

We did trek 30 this past summer (713-N). I sent a trip report after
returning, which I'd be glad to forward to you off list if you would like.
 
As for your questions, we did our ranger training at Sioux camp, the fires
were in the south country this past year, and the only fire damage we saw
was from the 2002 Ponil fire.
 
Yes, we did have to take the burros, but our guys loved it. The only
disappointing part was getting out of Ponil late due to burro training,
which led to getting to Pueblano about 2:15pm, which disqualified us for
cons that day and put us at the back of the line for spar pole climbing. We
were not able to do spar pole climbing, but that had more to do with them
only having ropes for two poles instead of the normal three.
 
The boys named our burro "Speedy Gonzales", as it ran or galloped most of
the time, so we were not slowed too much by the burro. Our sister crew did
have a lot of problems with their burro until we showed them how to get it
to run. After that, they had a much better time.
 
>From Pueblano, we hiked directly into Ewells Park, set up camp, and took the
burro to Miranda where we turned him in. At Miranda, we had plenty of time
to do all of the program, black powder, tomahawk throwing, etc.
 
According to the itinerary, you pick up the burro at Ponil after burro
training, hike to Pueblano, put the burro in a pen overnight, then turn the
burro back in at Miranda the next day. You only keep it for two days and
one night. We went to Baldy Town the next day, in time to get food at 8am
before heading up and over Baldy on to French Henry and back to Ewells.
 
The burro program is completely attitude. I was disappointed when I heard
it would be mandatory, but I chose to have a positive attitude and made it a
big deal with our crew, this made all the difference, as it was a highlight
of our trip. Although not as big a deal as bagging Baldy, Phillips, Big
Red, Black, Schaeffer's and the Tooth.
 
Hope this helps.
 
David Wheeler
Bonham, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: Philmont@troop47.com [mailto:Philmont@troop47.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
Lewis
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:24 PM
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Subject: [Philmont] 30 & Burros

This is for anyone who did 30 in 2005 or 2006:
 
Since the fire burned Sioux pretty badly (I hear), do you still stage up
there on the hillside for Ranger Training or stay somewhere else down in the
canyon, like Bent?
 
We always used to enjoy so much the detour out of Ponil going off property
up and over Wilson Mesa. We'd do lunch at the beautiful lake looking up at
Baldy, pay our respects to Rex's grave site, and cobble down into Pueblano
in time to do climbing that afternoon. 'Twas a great beginning! Now that
the burros have been forced on fast-moving crews like 30, I presume you just
have to take the normal (boring) trail from Ponil to Pueblano. True or no?
Once you dragged the burros up that trail to Continental Tie & Lumber Hqs,
did you have time to pole climb THAT afternoon?
 
After Pueblano, I presume you take the burros to Baldy Skyline, but then
what? Did you then drop down to Miranda to feed them and Mountain Man, or
did you stay high on the ridge and head on up to Ewells to overnight them on
open pasture? Did you drop them at Miranda or Baldy Town? If Baldy Town,
how did you get it done in time to begin Baldy by 9 (which is, I understand,
the current deadline departure time)?
 
Jerry Lewis
611-I2 2007
Troop 303, McKinney TX
 

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