[philmont] Need Help with Advisor Training

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The way I handled the advisor job is as follows: at the very start
before leaving the Council office (our crew was a council contingent
and that's were we gathered to meet our bus) I gathered everyone
around in a circle and let them know my take on being an advisor.

I explained that being an advisor meant just that. I was there to
advise them at any time they wanted my advice.

I further explained that the crew leader that they should elect was
going to lead the crew and that they should work out among themselves
how they were going to organise themselves to have a successful trek.
I did encourage them to work together as a team and to rotate
responsibilities so everyone, for example, could get to be navigator
(naviguesser?) at least once. The length of the trek in days is well
suited to seeing that everyone gets an opportunity to do every job
that a crew needs to get done.

I finally told them that it was a great honor for me to serve as their advisor.

These guys were great. We had a great crew and a great trek.
I was particularly proud of the way they looked out for each other,
stayed together and paced themselves so as to ease into the trek
during the early days to get acclimated to the altitude.

It's a boy led program. The boys lead at Philmont. The advisor is
strictly along for the ride.

Joe Jansen
JAJansenJr@gmail.com
Philmont 1965 (crew member); 1978 (advisor)

On 9/19/07, Roy Fisher <rfisher003@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> Greetings Oh Most Knowledgeable Phil-Pholk,
>
> Since things are kind of slow while we wait for the 2009 Lotto, I need some
> advice, direction, and/or counsel in dealing with an advisor who may need
> some training in what an advisor's role is at Philmont.
>
> Background: Several years ago at summer camp this adult did something that
> caused a number of folks to not want to be in the same crew. I don't know
> any of the details, but it involved some form of 'taking over' the control
> and leadership of the Troop from the youth leaders and alienating all of the
> adults who were in attendance. Apparently the offense was grievous. I have
> observed some lesser demonstrations on other campouts.
>
> Problem: Our Troop has secured two crews for 2008 and are fully subscribed.
> This individual has signed up to attend with their son. In trying to
> determine the make up of the two crews there have been some 'show stoppers'
> from some of the other participants (youth and adults) to the point that if
> they are in the crew with this person they will resign.
>
> Assignment: What sources of information are there that describe, the more
> detailed the better, the role of an adult advisor while with a crew at
> Philmont? I already have Coop and Wally's Unofficial Guide and have given
> this person a copy to read; I already have the Council and Unit Planning
> Guide, Guidebook to Adventure and Treks books. Is there some publication,
> website, etc. that I can also point this person too? I do plan on having a
> heart-to-heart chat with this person about this issue, because I'm not sure
> they are aware of the problem. Another Troop leader suggested that the
> problem was 'almost intractable'. I think this person would enjoy the
> opportunity to share Philmont with their son, but not at the expense of
> everyone else in the crew.
>
> Your HELP would be most appreciated.
>
> Happy Trails,
>
> Roy Fisher
>
> PS If this person is a lurker on this list, I have intentionally not
> mentioned names to protect the innocent. Please don't take offense, take
> heart and take action.
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Received on Wed Sep 19 22:41:40 2007