[philmont] Need Help with Advisor Training

An interesting story of how one advisor handled a tough situation his
crew faced will be found at:

http://www.hepth.cornell.edu/~seb/philmont-morale-boosters.html

The advisor handled things well, although it could be said that some
earlier suggestions might have avoided some of the difficulty they
faced with regard to wellness issues.

Joe Jansen
JAJansenJr@gmail.com

On 9/19/07, Roy Fisher <rfisher003@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> Greetings Oh Most Knowledgeable Phil-Pholk,
>
> Since things are kind of slow while we wait for the 2009 Lotto, I need some
> advice, direction, and/or counsel in dealing with an advisor who may need
> some training in what an advisor's role is at Philmont.
>
> Background: Several years ago at summer camp this adult did something that
> caused a number of folks to not want to be in the same crew. I don't know
> any of the details, but it involved some form of 'taking over' the control
> and leadership of the Troop from the youth leaders and alienating all of the
> adults who were in attendance. Apparently the offense was grievous. I have
> observed some lesser demonstrations on other campouts.
>
> Problem: Our Troop has secured two crews for 2008 and are fully subscribed.
> This individual has signed up to attend with their son. In trying to
> determine the make up of the two crews there have been some 'show stoppers'
> from some of the other participants (youth and adults) to the point that if
> they are in the crew with this person they will resign.
>
> Assignment: What sources of information are there that describe, the more
> detailed the better, the role of an adult advisor while with a crew at
> Philmont? I already have Coop and Wally's Unofficial Guide and have given
> this person a copy to read; I already have the Council and Unit Planning
> Guide, Guidebook to Adventure and Treks books. Is there some publication,
> website, etc. that I can also point this person too? I do plan on having a
> heart-to-heart chat with this person about this issue, because I'm not sure
> they are aware of the problem. Another Troop leader suggested that the
> problem was 'almost intractable'. I think this person would enjoy the
> opportunity to share Philmont with their son, but not at the expense of
> everyone else in the crew.
>
> Your HELP would be most appreciated.
>
> Happy Trails,
>
> Roy Fisher
>
> PS If this person is a lurker on this list, I have intentionally not
> mentioned names to protect the innocent. Please don't take offense, take
> heart and take action.
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Received on Wed Sep 19 22:47:55 2007