[philmont] Need Help with Advisor Training

Roy Asks and notes:

>
> Background: Several years ago at summer camp this adult did
> something that
> caused a number of folks to not want to be in the same crew. I
> don't know
> any of the details, but it involved some form of 'taking over' the
> control
> and leadership of the Troop from the youth leaders and alienating
> all of the
> adults who were in attendance. Apparently the offense was
> grievous. I have
> observed some lesser demonstrations on other campouts.
>
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>
> I do plan on having a
> heart-to-heart chat with this person about this issue, because I'm
> not sure
> they are aware of the problem. Another Troop leader suggested
> that the
> problem was 'almost intractable'. I think this person would enjoy the
> opportunity to share Philmont with their son, but not at the
> expense of
> everyone else in the crew.
>
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I think you know that the only solution here does not have a happy
ending. All the printed guides and rules in the world are not going to
solve your problem and this is not a quick appeal to the District
Advancement Chairman. Maybe a serious heart to heart will help with an
agreement that this is a one strike and you are out situation, but you
seem to agree with yourself that this probably will not work.

My guess is that there will be some other event that occurs between now
and then that solves the problem for you.

In fairness to the crew you need to be sure that sending this guy(and
unfortunately, his son) off the trail will not create a major hardship
for everyone else. Make sure that when he drives off into the sunset he
is not leaving anyone hanging. Also make sure that he is not left to
suffer in base camp while the rest of you are trekking around the
countryside.

In fairness to him make sure he knows how people feel and that he is on
a tight leash. Most of us (Calvin, Don, and John are the exceptions)
are not independently wealthy and a Philmont trek is a significant
financial cost as well as the use of 2 plus weeks of vacation (or
complete loss of revenue if you own your own business).

While I generally don't care what other people think I cannot imagine
taking a vacation where I am not wanted. Philmont is cool but for the
cost a father\son could do two weeks just about anywhere in the country
for the same or less money.

I wish you well. Maybe we will solve the problem for you while
chatting around the campfire on our AA trip next week. Guessing I am
about the only one still online who is taking the trip since the other
suckers have to drive from Texas. I will be taking my private jet to
ABQ on Friday night and then drive up and throw my bag on the grass or
sleep in the car with a sunrise wakeup view of the tooth.

Mark

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Received on Wed Sep 19 23:13:55 2007